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Magnum -

Hi, I registered here a while ago, but never started studying Mandarin because I was finishing
French. Now, I am ready to study Mandarin an hour a day.

I am looking for a good beginners program to buy. I want a CD where they say the word in English,
then in Mandarin a couple times, then in a sentance.

I have learned French, so I have some experience in studying foriegn languages. I expect Mandarin
will be much more difficult to learn. That is why I want to start with the basics and learn them
well.

Can anyone recommend a good CD program? My local bookstore has a few different CD's such as "Learn
In Your Car Chinese: Mandarin", "Teach Yourself Chinese Complete Course", and "Basic Mandarin
Chinese".

What is a good book and CD to start with? My goal is to find a program that will teach me 200
words in a month, and that I will be able to speak the correct way. If I can learn, then I will be
willing to buy a more advanced program like Pimsleur.

Thanks for any advice!



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mikeedward -

I'd recommend going to http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/ce_chinese/ and go to the Learn Chinese Now
section at the bottom. There are a couple of hundred really good beginner lessons you can download
and burn to CD, and there are transcripts as well. This course probably beats the pants off of
anything in your local bookstore. If you can get your hands on Pimsleur, its also a great starting
point. If you use Pimsleur before you learn the Pinyin (writing) system, I think it can be a big
advantage because hopefully you won't be trying to match what you hear to english words and
english pronunciations. You can just focus on reproducing exactly what you hear, and you won't be
thinking about how the word is spelled in Pinyin, which could have a negative affect on the
accuracy of your pronunciation.

If you want a good beginner's book, I remember that Chinese the Easy Way by Williams and Wu was
one of the best. There are a lot of beginner's books that are really only good for people who
maybe just plan on taking a vacation in China and aren't serious about learning the language. The
first beginner's Chinese book I bought didn't even have tone markings. The author started by
saying that you don't need to use tones to be understood by most Chinese people. So, obviously
stay away from this type of book if you want achieve any level of proficiency in the language.

Mike










Magnum -

Thanks Mike, that website looks great. I found the link you mentioned, but none of the audio seems
to be working tonight. I'll check out that book too.










johnd -

See the first post of this thread to find out how to download these lessons:

http://www. /showthread.php?t=9837










Magnum -

JohnD, it seems the audio files won't load. The session keeps timing out. Does anyone else have
problems playing the audio? Do I need to update my windows media player to 10?


In my searches I found a very basic, very good introduction to a few basic words.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/chine...se/index.shtml

I wish I could find another website like the bbc, with more lessons. They are short, simple, and
easy to remember.










Magnum -

I had one more idea. Does anyone know a store that sells Chinese videos designed for children aged
6, 7 or 8? Since that is how Chinese kids learn words, maybe it is a good way for anyone to learn.
It would be a form of immersion learning.










mikeedward -

Yeah the chinabroadcast site definitely has some problems connecting a lot of the time. Keep
trying though. You should try chinesepod.com in the meantime.

I downloaded some videos for kids in that age range you mentioned but wanted to shoot myself after
a few minutes because the voices in the videos were extremely annoying. But for beginners I would
say that it was still much too difficult anyways. I still have never found any chinese tv show
that is suitable for someone just starting the language. Even the entertaining children's cartoon
小新 is quite difficult for someone to understand in their first year or 2 of study. Immersion
is a good idea, but not that practical with the videos available.

Mike










xor333 -

I strongly recommend you - go to www.chinesepod.com. You should download mp3s and pdf's, use iPod,
Walkman, or any mp3 player and LISTENING ALL THE TIME (I do that

But for serious and complementary learning I sugest you to buy 'A Key To Chinese Speech and
Writing' by Joel Bellassen and Zhang Pengpeng. This book is the best course of chinese I ever met.
For every sinogram there is a complementary description - the stroke order, a tradicional variant,
a puzzle (radicals that are put togheter to make a new sinogram), and the best and unique thing -
THE ORIGIN OF SINOGRAMS - I mean the old ageg view. It really help to understand the mystical of
chinese writing.

I've got an mp3s from this book. If anyone want to download - please write










Magnum -

xor333, thanks for that link, it is wonderful! I already found some mp3's to download.

I am going to look for that book tomorrow.










Chinese Learner -

Hi,

I just bought these books - can someone please post the link to the MP3s as I can only seem to
find tapes fro these books and not CDs - I don't own a tape machine!

Thanks!!!!!!!












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