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gougou -
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Well, I do doubt that China will permit such a loss of human resource in the next few years.
Again, if Chinese women don't want them, why would the party want them?
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chenpv -
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Again, if Chinese women don't want them, why would the party want them?
Oh well, maybe afraid of being accused of violating human rights if western media picture the
whole story as 'Chinese government forcing thousands of bachelors out of China'. Besides, China
has no 'Maternacracy'.
roddy -
I'd agree - I think any government looking at over-population and under-employment, given the
opportunity to get rid of the most under-educated, under-employed section of it's menfolk (and
those are in all likelihood the men who are going to miss out) in some way it couldn't be blamed
for would probably jump at the chance. However, these are the men that are least likely to be
welcome to go and work in other countries.
Wonder what the consequences of having 30 million more women than men would be. . .
Luobot -
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Wonder what the consequences of having 30 million more women than men would be. . .
Fewer wars ... more shopping ...
chenpv -
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Originally Posted by Luobot
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Originally Posted by roddy
Wonder what the consequences of having 30 million more women than men would be. . .
Fewer wars ... more shopping ...
Luobot, I am afraid you misinterpreted roddy. He was probably thinking otherwise on reading
adrionlondon's saying:
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maybe there needs to be a legalisation of polyandry (one woman, many husbands).
I am wrong?
(Btw, what's the english word for 'one husband, many women'? )
I have been thinking whether the statistics that 'there were 118.6 boys born for every 100 girls'
could be depicted from another angle, so as to evaluate the efficacy of One-Child policy.
Irrespective of effectors from child policy for ethnic minorities and people from rural area, if
we suppose a sample of 200 families, does this 118.6 over 100 datum suggest that about 19
families, 8.5% of total, choose to violate the One-Child policy? Am I way off the track?
Koneko -
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Originally Posted by chenpv
(Btw, what's the english word for 'one husband, many women'? )
Yes, that's right. I can't think of any other word other than this.
But polyandry is not the only solution to this imbalanced gender ratio in China.
Maybe, the government of China can pass a new act, viz., Adelphogamy Act?!
It's a policy for several brothers from the same family to share a common wife, aka, alpha
female!! Ha ha..
But then, I just realised that there are no brothers in Chinese Han families in Mainland China.
K.
HashiriKata -
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But then, I just realised that there are no brothers in Chinese Han families in Mainland China.
Koneko, there're brothers in my family. What do you think?
(And you don't have to go as far as China! )
Koneko -
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Koneko, there're brothers in my family. What do you think?
Ha ha... The second question will be:- Do you want to be the alpha male or beta male?
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(And you don't have to go as far as China! )
Gender ratio in Japan is quite even as shown here, 1.01 males/female
K.
sui.generis -
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Originally Posted by chenpv
(Btw, what's the english word for 'one husband, many women'? )
polygyny. Funny, as I was reading this thread I was wracking my brain to think of how to say
polyandry.
Another solution I've heard suggested is the about-face of the gov't to encourage homosexuality.
It certainly doesn't seem pre-disposed to do so, but to me the party seems just pragmatic enough
make that sort of change.
This is an unusual permutation of a gender imbalance problem, but it's far from the first. In
societies that have practiced polygamy, which is virtually always polygyny, even though there may
be an equal number of both genders, not every man gets multiple wives. The more powerful and the
more wealthy get many wives, and the poor and powerless get none. Generally there are more poor
powerless men in a society than not, and so the majority get nothing. The other variation of the
problem is when you have massive war deaths of the male population. These are generally followed
by an increase of births of male babies, which may be triggered by a general hormonal shift
(testosterone/gondatrophin) in the remaining female population--forced to take on roles thought of
as masculine to fill the economic and social gap, and under that hormonal shift they are more
likely to give birth to male babies.
I don't know if it works in exactly the opposite direction, such that an opposite shift in
hormonal balance would lead to an increase in the births of female babies, but that could
ultimately provide a solution without gov't intervention (or compliment intervention). If the
competition amongst potential male suitors for female companionship led to an increase in
chivalrous, caretaker type behaviour that was met with an equal increase/assumption of traditional
gender roles, and if that assumption had the opposite effect on hormone levels in potential
mothers that the assumption of traditional male gender roles had, and if that opposite hormone
level led to an increase in female baby births, then the population would even out. There'd be
more 40 year old men with 20 year old wives in 2040 than normal, but I don't think that would
present an immediate problem.
Before you get on me for any perceived sexism, read pg 123, The Red Queen. The book is not science
fact, but it is science. My attempted extension is neither, but is an honest attempt.
gougou -
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and under that hormonal shift they are more likely to give birth to male babies.
Impressed again by what a cool species we are...
About encouraging homosexuality, I don't think that is something you can change by decree. My
guess is that most of the people that will not find a partner come from less than liberal
backgrounds; homosexuality isn't even on their radars yet. It would take a die hard party member
to change sexual orientation just because Hu Jintao asked him to...
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