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Jenny311 -

Glad to find the discussion! Hope I'm not too late to join!

As for " it relies too much on cheap tricks for effect, what with all the incest, death and
madness. " -- Considering it is a play on stage, not TV or film which can use all kinds of
technical means, these tricks are necessary for showing a meaningful story in a couple of hours.

"except that it predates TV soaps by a few decades." -- Yes, there's a saying that "the first one
trying to do somthing creatively is brave, others following him are just normal". I have had the
same feeling when reading some old literature works, I felt "they are quiet ordinary, how can they
become famous great works?!" But considering the time they were born, maybe they're not that
ordinary.

Actually, the father 周朴园 is the lead of this play. Any one is interested in talking more
about him?

If we google with key words like " 雷雨 人物分析”or“雷雨人物形象”, will get more
info about it.



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muyongshi -

Well actually I still don't like the story in that sense whether it's "original" or not....

I found the father to be the saddest character of all. And in many senses the most real. He seemed
to be one who was getting through life, had some mistakes, but never went to an extreme, but
simply just pushed ahead, trying to lead a normal life. But what made him the saddest was that
everything around him just kept falling to pieces and he was effected the most by all the same
things.










Jenny311 -

BTW, the movie based on this play is titled "Curse of the Golden Flower", instead of "banquet",
which is another movie.










muyongshi -

Your saying that curse of the golden flower is based on THIS play?????? Wow...never would have
guessed...they sure upped the anty on the setting.










Jenny311 -

http://gjgx.com/jiaocan/cyuwen/cyuwen3/200607/2572.html

A link to analysis of 雷雨's characters.

If anyone wonder whether this play is a meaningful work or a boring story, then perhaps the link
might be helpful for finding an answer.










skylee -

"The Banquet" 《夜宴》 was inspired by Shakespeare's "Hamlet".










Jenny311 -

"Your saying that curse of the golden flower is based on THIS play?????? "

-- YES. I'm sure. The movie is based on this play, but made some changes.
If you google both 满城尽带黄金甲 and 雷雨, will find the fact.










imron -



Quote:

BTW, the movie based on this play is titled "Curse of the Golden Flower", instead of "banquet",
which is another movie.

D'oh, I knew it was one of them, and just got them mixed up (I've not seen either of the movies
myself)










muyongshi -

I haven't seen either of them either (heard too many bad things about the the curse) and now that
I know I will most definitely NOT watch it.










Jenny311 -

Back to 雷雨，if anyone is still interested in ,( I myself am familiar with 雷雨，not
球状闪电. Please forgive me sticking here:）

To make it interesting, I make up some questions here:

1. What does the scene of "taking medicine" mean?

The father forced his wife to take medicine which she was not willing to have. What kind of
personality of both characters were shown from this scene?

2. (to be continue, if people are still interested in.












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